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daria

Happened to read your piece at blogcritics and am now reading this blog. Love it. Glad to know I'm not the only one still trying to process why I was so obsessed with NIN about ten years ago, although another post of yours talking of a serious existential crisis - and it was! it was real! - right about when you found that record seems to have mirrored my own experience. It really filtered into my life in all sorts of unfortunate ways, and though I got over obsessive fandom a few years later (and found The Fragile painful and sad and nearly unlistenable), I can't stop myself from still being a little *too* interested in what TR is up to now.

Courtney Love once was complaining about what she called "postmodern irony disease" and I seem to have picked that up in the decade in between. And I've about hit a wall with it and am trying to figure out how to check back in and start unabashedly caring about things. The new NIN record which I unabashedly love has been rather inspiring in that way. It's funny the way things go. Never how you'd expect!

J

i was kinda disappointed not hearing more new songs at Coachella too but glad to read i wasn't imagining him smiling during Hurt :P

Howler

How has his vibe totally changed?

Jane

Daria: Thanks for writing! I'm glad people are reading and enjoying my little article about one of my favorite records ever. It's amazing how music can appear and be there for you exactly when you needed it. TDS was like that for me, and so is With Teeth, which I love so much it makes me sick, I must say. Postmodern Irony Disease totally sucks, and I wish you all the luck in the world in getting over it. As for me, I have Consumed Too Much Postmodern Theory Disease, as my article clearly indicates.

J: He smiled his ass off. I loved it. Now he just needs to put that song to bed. I have high hopes that he will transition into the new material once the record is out. It makes sense that he's stick with the hitz everyone's expecting until then, but after that? I like that guy on the new record. I want to hear that guy.

Howler: All the icky-sicky is gone. He looks like a million dollars, if a bit chunk-style, and seems happy and together, so it's hard to manufacture that wierd symbiotic relationship he used to have with his audience. He doesn't seem as needy as he once did. It's a welcome change, but the fact remains that something in his performance that was really powerful in the past is no longer present; something is lost. I'm not sure we can get a full view of what's been gained until he plays the new material.

daria

Hello again! I've consumed way too much theory myself, although I did sell my copy of Powers of Horror a few months back so I sadly don't have it for handy reference. I think I read Kristeva now just for the poetic side of it a la Black Sun, because I'm something of a Deleuzian (there's a cult for you, but I have a sense of humor about it!) and against psychoanalysis. I don't know, there's some kind of powerful dynamic that Kristeva seems to get, but I don't agree with the language she uses for it.

As for the performance, I haven't been to a show since the Spiral era, but I could see how things have fundamentally changed. One had the sense then of being part of what forced the insanity that happened on stage, all the (nuclear weapons grade) anguish that got dumped on the audience because, well, we demanded it and there was never enough. That moment has passed and it's sad that you can't have it back, but if you could, it wouldn't be anything. I kind of see the new material as still as amazing as ever at drawing you in ("Sunspots" is the hotness), but then grabbing you by the throat and saying all right, wake the f**k up and think about what is going on here. ("The Collector" is super smart and lucid about it..)

The whole vibe is just blunt, raw, real - Spiral was so romanticized and a good deal of this one is more what it feels like when reality dumps some cold water on your head. But somehow there's a sense that it's joyful and liberating, which it wouldn't be coming from someone really judgmental who hadn't been through so much and really believed in all of it.

Maybe he needs a new audience. Not the ones who listen only to NIN, Manson and Tool, and are perpetually on some Holy Grail style of hunt for that extra German import Halo on vinyl and trying to find the right calculus formula to decode the lyrics. I like the guy on the new record as well, but those people who'd set themselves on fire for the guy on the old records? Maybe they won't like it. Tant pis pour eux.

Jane

Daria: I think he will lose some, with his newfound health. Not me, though. I love it. If he'd made another record of tortured misery, I'm not sure I could have borne it.

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